Log-in 

2010

This is a discussion thread · 6 replies
Nick Naim:
Next year is the new decade..not now

The dont pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino. Why are so many gamblers uninformed?
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
Alan Shank:
[nq:1]Next year is the new decade..not now[/nq]
A decade ends (and a new one begins) every microsecond, every quantum of time, if there is such a thing. It's perfectly correct to talk about a decade of "the aughts", which began Jan. 1, 2000 and ended Dec. 31, 2009. However, the "first decade of the 21st century" does not end until Dec. 31, 2010, since the 21st century began Jan. 1,
2001.
[nq:1] The dont pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino.Define "best". Why are so many gamblers uninformed?It's called "ignorance".[/nq]
Cheers, and Happy New Year,
Alan Shank
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
SteveF:
"Nick Naim" makes the following statement:
[nq:1]The dont pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino.[/nq]
Well, that's not quite true, and it depends on a number of unsaid assumptions. First of all, by "best" I assume you mean the bet with the lowest house advantage (the smallest negative EVR.) Secondly, I assume you are not considering Casino Promotions (like match-play coupons), nor are you thinking of games of skill like card counting at Blackjack.
The correct answer is that the odds bet in Craps has a zero house advantage, which makes it the best bet, except that it requires a line bet first. So the Don't Pass line bet with 100x odds has the lowest EVR (.021%) bet in the casino. Your initial answer above with 2X odds would only have an EVR of .61%, and the basic-strategy player at a double-deck Blackjack game has an EVR of about .4%, which is lower.

Steve F.
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
John B:
The don't pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino. Why are so many gamblers uninformed?

So what's your point? The above statement is about as "profound" as.."The best bet in the casino is to not make one!". I would be willing to bet that if the casino posted the exact EV for every game / bet offered, the distribution of players at the various games would be virtually unchanged. If you stand at the door and tell every person entering the casino that the "best" bet in the casino is to play craps with don't pass and odds, do you think they will all go line up at the craps table..NOT! My point is, I agree that many people in the casino are uninformed about the exavt EV of the games and bets, but that it wwouldn't make any significant difference in the way most peope play if they were informed.
JB
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
Nick Naim:
[nq:1]The don't pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino. Why are so many gamblers uninformed? So what's your point?JFC..[/nq]
A dont pass bet at double odds or more is the best bet in the casino Stop spinning this simple fact
The above statement is about as "profound"
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
Alan Shank:
[nq:2]The don't pass bet with double odds is the best bet in the casino. Why are so many gamblers uninformed? So what's your point?[/nq]
[nq:1]JFC.. A dont pass bet at double odds or more is the best bet in the casino Stop spinning this simple fact[/nq]
You still have not defined "best". I assume you are simply referring to the house advantage, which is only one aspect, albeit an important one, of a bet or betting system. However, the difference between pass and don't pass is so small as to be negligible. The "perfect 1980" for pass shows a loss of 28 units, for don't pass 27.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.
Nick Naim:
[nq:2]JFC.. A dont pass bet at double odds or more is the best bet in the casino Stop spinning this simple fact[/nq]
[nq:1]You still have not defined "best". I assume you are simply referring to the house advantage, which is only one ... so small as to be thee best bet in the casino Press 2 4 then 3 then open the door[/nq]
The "perfect 1980" for
This thread originates from within 'usenet', and as such the content and users are not guaranteed to have been moderated by our community.