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My ODDS are working!!This is a discussion thread · 55 replies PlnoCowboy: ..on the comeout roll. Just got back from 3 days in Shreveport..Was in a slot tournament at Sam's Town. I wasn't even close to being in the money..I guess I need to "practice" more..My skill at hitting a button as fast as I can for 5 minutes was nothing compared to the skill of some of the ladies in the contest. Anyway, I had the opportunity to play a few sessions of craps and learned a new approach for me. I normally play a 3-point Molly >Passline + 2 come Bets..all with 3-4X Odds. when a point is made, I've started letting the Come bet Odds WORK on the comeout roll. More often then not they either stayed up or won...I'm stickin' with it.
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Gregg Cattanach [nq:1]..on the comeout roll. Just got back from 3 days in Shreveport..Was in a slot tournament at Sam's Town. I ... bet Odds WORK on the comeout roll. More often then not they either stayed up or won...I'm stickin' with it.[/nq]I play this way a lot also, and most of my money at risk is on the odds bets, (lately $5 pass/come and 3x4x5x full odds, keep 3 numbers working. If I'm feeling 'poor' I'll do the same but only use 2x odds). I think the math says that's it a tiny bit better to have them work all the time. Certainly this is true: "More often then not they either stayed up or won". Only on 6 out of 36 rolls will you lose them. I think the 'regret' of watching one of my come bets win on the comeout and only getting paid one unit and nothing on the odds is worse than the benefit of having them returned on a 7-out. I have to remember to do this on my next trip on Nov. 10-15. How often and when do you have to tell the dealer to keep them on? Gregg C.
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Bob R: [nq:1]How often and when do you have to tell the dealer to keep them on?[/nq]If you tell the dealer a couple of times that you want your odds always working on the comeout he will tell the boxman and they will probably remember, then just remind them when the dealers change. I play like this sometimes, but not always, so I tell them they are off unless I explicitly call them on. If one accepts that the odds are a 0 edge bet then over the course of many rolls you should come out even as far as on vs. off. Frankly, I've been getting burned by it more lately so I don't do it as often unless I think the shooter is unfluencing the dice against sevens.
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Cymbal Man Freq. Frankly, I've been getting burned by it more lately so I don't do it as often unless I think the shooter is unfluencing the dice against sevens.Precision Shooters are UNfluencers!!!
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PlnoCowboy: >>Usually I only have to tell them once or twice and they remember going forward.. I try to get a few tips in for the dealers (Hardways for $1 each or $4 horn on the comeout) and their memory improves.
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Bob R: [nq:1]Usually I only have to tell them once or twice and they remember going forward.. I try to get a few tips in for the dealers (Hardways for $1 each or $4 horn on the comeout) and their memory improves.[/nq]It fascinates me in craps that this culture has evolved for dealer tips that involves placing high-vig bets for the dealers. Overall the dealers would be much better off if players made line bets or especially odds for the dealers (when the player doesn't take max odds), but it doesn't seem to happen much. Do you think dealers know this but don't want to buck a player-trend that is working for them? Or are they just excited about going for the big score?
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stacy_friedman: [nq:1]How often and when do you have to tell the dealer to keep them on?[/nq]Typically every time, though astute dealers will catch on. When I play the shotgun, I always work my odds. Of course, I don't always make passline bets either. At really well-run casinos, the outgoing dealer will tell his/her replacement about your particular playing style, including your come-out preferences. I've only had this happen to me twice, though. In general, the less your play is like the status-quo, the more you need to be vocal about exactly how you want your bets handled.
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PlnoCowboy: >>Bob - Good point. I'd say #1. I've often thought of just tossing them the tip to put in the box, but I NEVER see that happen by anyone, so a high-vig bet it is..They seem to like it too. When I had my hardways working on the comeout, they too had theirs working..
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John Kerr: Dealer tipsGroup: rec.gambling.craps Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 4:06pm (CDT-1) From: (Email Removed) (Bob=A0R) Usually I only have to tell them once or twice and they remember going forward.. I try to get a few tips in for the dealers (Hardways for $1 each or $4 horn on the comeout) and their memory improves. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D It fascinates me in craps that this culture has evolved for dealer tips that involves placing high-vig bets for the dealers. Overall the dealers would be much better off if players made line bets or especially odds for the dealers (when the player doesn't take max odds), but it doesn't seem to happen much. Do you think dealers know this but don't want to buck a player-trend that is working for them? Or are they just excited about going for the big score? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Having been a dealer, I can tell you that I would have rather had a "hand-in"...no HA to overcome  . But I also understood that the player wanted us to have "action", and over a long peiod of time, the high vig bets for the dealers return almost what's expected. So yes, we loved the high vig bets, for every dollar bet for us, we expected to pocket around90 cents. We did like the line bets better, and when a real George alsoplaced odds for us, they definately got the service above and beyond! Dealers appreciate any and all bets placed for them..that's how they make a living. And over a long enough period of time, they enjoy the "persentage" of wins that one would expectfor any given bet to produce. Just an after thought, we often talked about why we couldn't "deduct" the losing bets from our winnngs for tax purposes, just like a player could..after all, it is our money once it is in play. That didn't make it very far with the IRS though !JB
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ACDOC: When I toke, the first one will be a 2 way hardway 6&8.If I have a good hand, I'll either put it on the line or place the point. I never really thought about simply handing it in. I don't bet the toke for the waitress, do I? Thanks for the insight.
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