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R.I.P.This is a discussion thread · 4 replies The Midnight Skulker: As one of the most senior active posters left in this group it is with heavy heart that I concede its death. I understand many Usenet groups have suffered a similar fate, with the dropping of news feeds by ISPs like AOL and the proliferation of web forums being given as probable reasons. Whatever the reason, the signal-to-noise ratio here has become unacceptable. I'll still check in, but I have today joined www.crapsforum.com and I urge other serious posters to take a look at it. Yeah, it has all kinds of ads for online casinos and other junk, but it also has some discussions like this group used to have. Hope to see y'all there.1 2 [nq:1]The Midnight Skulker[/nq] 9 * 3 aka Van Lewisaka (Email Removed) 6
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The Midnight Skulker: Oops. Just tried my link and it failed. It should be http://www.crapsforum.com 1 2 [nq:1]The Midnight Skulker[/nq] 9 * 3 aka Van Lewisaka (Email Removed) 6
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SteveF: "The Midnight Skulker" writes these final words:[nq:1]As one of the most senior active posters left in this group it is with heavy heart that I concede ... and other junk, but it also has some discussions like this group used to have. Hope to see y'all there.[/nq] Hi Van, The death has been a slow one over the last couple of years. It started when Jacobs left and was really finished when Mason left. The Blackjack group, which was my group of choice when I first joined usenet almost 20 years ago, died over 5 years ago when Doug Grant sued the moderators.The online Blackjack groups are nothing like the usenet group used to be, and after a perusal of this "crapsforum" group, I see the same fate for the craps players of the world. Usenet is universal, and news feeds display r.g.c to everyone in the world. One needs to Google for these other forums, which require registration and sometimes payment. So there aren't a whole lot of posters to any one group; and what posting there is usually involve newbie questions, answered by other newbies sometimes giving wrong information. Besides the wider exposure of usenet, another difference is the FAQ. It supplies a basis of answers for newbies, and is a jumping-off place for the more controversial topics, such as Dice Derandomizing. I'm afraid there just isn't enough universal interest in these gambling topics to sustain a meaningful traffic of discussion either in usenet or in web-based forums. I miss discussing card counting and basic strategy questions in Blackjack, and I will miss learning more from the Dice Derandomizing proponents for how they perceive their skill (for instance this idea that the dice hit the bottom layer of pyramids). Not all usenet is dead, as there is plenty of interest in other groups that I still enjoy, including the puzzles newsgroup, math, physics, and Fortran groups still have plenty of traffic. I will still post the FAQs for these gambling groups on or near the first of every month, but I also accede . . . R. I. P. Steve F.
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Alan Shank: [nq:1]As one of the most senior active posters left in this group it is with heavy heart that I concede ... and other junk, but it also has some discussions like this group used to have. Hope to see y'all there.[/nq]I will check it out, but my first impression of it is not positive. I will also continue to check back here from time to time; every once in a while there is a decent discussion. BTW, just got back from nine days in Belize. In San Ignacio they have a casino, but I was allowed to go there. >:-) Probably no craps, anyway. Cheers, Alan Shank
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John B: (The=A0Midnight=A0Skulker)As one of the most senior active posters left in this group it is with heavy heart that I concede its death. I understand many Usenet groups have suffered a similar fate, with the dropping of news feeds by ISPs like AOL and the proliferation of web forums being given as probable reasons. Whatever the reason, the signal-to-noise ratio here has become unacceptable. I'll still check in, but I have today joined www.crapsforum.com and I urge other serious posters to take a look at it. Yeah, it has all kinds of ads for online casinos and other junk, but it also has some discussions like this group used to have. Hope to see y'all there. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Another reason the group died out might be that there are just so many ways to look at a "horse shoe". Over the years that I have been logging on here, we pretty well looked at craps from most every vantage point...and most of them more than several times! What I enjoyed most was the good natured, and sometimes not so good natured, interaction amongst the posters, when that stopped there wasn't much left. JB
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