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Paul G.:

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Paul G.:

A policeman's arrest authority is only slightly different than a private citizen's. We delegate that ugly job to the professionals because we don't want to do it. When a person is on trial for a crime, it is the People trying him.
Goodnight, Gary. Cya tomorrow.
-Paul G.

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Bad Bob:

[nq:1]Felons can opt out by not doing the crime in the first place. Do thecrime, do the time, Barretta. -Paul G.[/nq]
Yeah well, we all know ole Barretta ain't going to fry. He's got a good lawyer.

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Bad Bob:

[nq:1]I'm an ***. What d'ya expect? -Paul G.[/nq]
Exactly!

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the pickle :

[nq:1]Has a wealthy person ever received the death penalty? Barbara Gallamore[/nq]
Louis XVI? Marie Antoinette? The interesting part is that Dr. Guillotin belonged to a reform movement that sought to do away with capital punishment completely. (He did not die from beheading. But he did *** off a bunch of people in power.) His family was so embarrassed by the name of the machine that they changed their own family name.

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the pickle :

[nq:2]Has a wealthy person ever received the death penalty?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think Leopold and Lloyd, or whatever there names were got the deathpenalty. Maybe not thoughl, I'm not sure. Dr. ... waswealthy or not though. I'm sure there are more recent examples also, I just can't think of any. Gary Carson[/nq]
Dr Mudd served a few years in an island prison off Florida ... He was pardoned and returned to medical practice. Mary Surratt WAS hanged, however ... There is controversy about her plea for mercy to President Johnson ... he said he never saw it but others say he did.

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Mike Caro:

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[nq:2]Roy, whats your opinion of Caro's starting hand chart in "Poker at the Millenium," vs Sklansky/Malmuth's advice?[/nq]
[nq:1]For those of you who are not familiar with Caro's starting advice in this book POKER AT THE MILLENNIUM, here ... will be seeing a response from Cooke on this subject given his close association with Mike Caro. Best wishes, Mason[/nq]
Hi, Mason
I appreciate your interest in my strategy, but I'm having trouble understanding why you posted this. You have already made similar points many times, and I responded often. You seem to have overlooked my responses and have restated the same stuff.
Again:
1. I don't think those hands are profitable in those situations.
2. The report doesn't say they are profitable.
3. The text in the report itself recommends much tighter tactics thanthe ones you cite and specifically points out that the advice in the strategic tables differs for reasons of balance and deception.

Once more: The strategy is an attempt to inject deception when it is useful. If deception is not useful, you don't need that strategy.

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro

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Diane from Green Bay:

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[nq:1]Hi, Mason I appreciate your interest in my strategy, but I'm having trouble understanding why you posted this. You ... I responded often. You seem to have overlooked my responses and have restated the same stuff. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro[/nq]
Because Mason is Mason..next watch for David to jump in an try to explain why Mason is misunderstood or not really saying what we know he is saying.
Diane

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Russ Georgiev:

[nq:2] For those of you who are not ... given his close association with Mike Caro. Best wishes, Mason[/nq]
[nq:1]Hi, Mason I appreciate your interest in my strategy, but I'm having trouble understanding why you posted this. You ... responded often. You seem to have overlooked my responses and have restated the same stuff. Again: 1. I don't think[/nq]
Who am I to argue with a GENIUS?
those hands are profitable in those situations.

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Mason Malmuth:

Mike:
I fully understand that your advice to play these weak hands I mentioned is part of an overall strategy against players who are good enough to require some deceptive play against them. I fully understand that you do not think these hands will show a profit by themselves. But your recommendations are still wrong because of the frequency you choose to play these bad hands. If you were to only play them 20 percent of the time or even less(against a raise) that would be enough to "balance" your strategy, as you put it. But playing these hands as often as you recommend unquestionably will cost you money in all but the easiest games.

"The report contains a lot of interesting concepts. As always Mike Caro's writing is thought-provoking. I move now to the trouble spot of the report: the table containing preflop strategy.
The text of the report advocates opening under the gun at a full 10-handed table with AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AQs, AK, and maybe KQs and JJ. It then turns around in the preflop table and, when literally interpreted, advocates cold calling (at least) an under the gun raise when you are next to act in early position with the following hands (among others): AQ, KJs, KTs, K9s, QTs, Q9s, J9s, and part of the time with A2s-A5s, KQ, KJ, Q8s, and J8s. Furthermore, if you have been winning then the report advocates cold calling two early all the time with A2s-A5s, KQ, KJ, and J8s, and also sometimes with Kxs, QJ, JT, etc... even hands as weak as 95s.

Cold calling with hands like KJ versus a sane early raiser is suicidal, no matter what your position or how much you've been winning. You are dominated by a large portion of the possible hands the raiser could hold. If you make a pair, you could be in trouble. If you don't make a pair, you can't continue after the flop. I suggest mucking even AQ here.
I have a very hard to reconciling the disparity in advice between the ultra tight early opening requirements and the ultra loose early cold calling requirements. In the old thread, Mike Caro defended himself by saying that each play made sense only in the context of the whole. I sympathize with that, but I looked at the whole report and I conclude the preflop strategy table is costly advice. Caro also admitted that the category in question, namely facing a raiser with 2-8 players left to act behind, was too broad. Yes, but also it makes the same mistake that older versions of Turbo Texas Hold'em make, in that it doesn't directly consider the position of the raiser.
The prosecution asks for murder one, but is willing to accept manslaughter. As a juror, I have seen no evidence for even reckless endangerment. You know the saying from Rounders as the camera pans over a shelf holding books by S&M and Doyle Brunson: "Caveat Emptor, baby!" My verdict is:
Not guilty... innocent by reason of insanity!
(He is the Mad Genius, after all.)
However, I'd really like to see Mike Caro do something about this. He could say that he didn't know what he was talking about in 1988. Or he could publish a new table or at least relabel the categories, but even then I think he should admit that the table in his report is nonsense, as is."

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Best wishes,
Mason

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