http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/Poker/Forum103.htmrec.gambling.pokerenXMOD (Build: 3715.30106)http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#20668Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:20668Usenet0http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#20668http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-20668.xml"Lee Munzer" > He's not saying the $2/$4 calling station is the player to move on; he's probably allowing for big bet poker (like PL); and he's saying the high stakes player who calls "too much", but ... realizing he is a hard player to move off a hand and becomes a comparatively easy player to bluff. Lee Lee,You are giving russ far too much credit. You are describing a situation in which you have no way of knowing whether he was referring to it or not. A player that is deemed a calling station is not consodered that way unless he habitually calls through the river. Someone that plays a lot of hands is not necessarily a calling station as you point out. I do agree that these players that call a lot...http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#19122Mon, 11 May 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:19122Usenet1http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#19122http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-19122.xml...i am new to message boards about poker. however there ... you are not a WCP. Duh! Russ's protege for sure... He didn't say he was new to poker, Vince. Peg of course he did say: "i am not saying i know what poker's about, because i don't" Well? Vincehttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#19118Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:19118Usenet2http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#19118http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-19118.xml...i am new to message boards about poker. however there ... you are not a WCP. Duh! Russ's protege for sure... He didn't say he was new to poker, Vince. Peg My mistake. Vincehttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#18890Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18890Usenet3http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/2/dglk/Post.htm#18890http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18890.xml...i am new to message boards about poker. however there seem to be a large amount of people (aka. random clowns) who doubt russ's theory posts. i am not a world class player, You fit right in with the dumbos that take this guy seriously. I like the part where you tell us that you are new to poker and then go on to say that you are not a WCP. Duh! Russ's protege for sure... He didn't say he was new to poker, Vince. Peghttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18855Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18855Usenet4http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18855http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18855.xmli am new to message boards about poker. however there seem to be a large amount of people (aka. random clowns) who doubt russ's theory posts. i am not a world class player, You fit right in with the dumbos that take this guy seriously. I like the part where you tell us that you are new to poker and then go on to say that you are not a WCP. Duh! Russ's protege for sure. there are a lot of people who seem to play 10-20 to 20-40 all their lives and think they know what poker's about. who is the clown who said being a solid pro is about courage, and that 80% of players know how to play? I am the clown that made that statement, dummy. Let me give you a little clue. You buddy Russ wouldn't stand a chance playing mid limit or...http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18819Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18819Usenet5http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18819http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18819.xml"Lee Munzer" > He's not saying the $2/$4 calling station is the player to move on; he'sprobably allowing for big bet poker (like PL); and he's saying the high stakes player who calls "too much", but is observant and gives you (his opponent) credit for being observant. I better qualify this statement as it could be interpreted as paradoxical (and we really don't need a paradoxical statement attempting to explain a paradoxical concept). Many players are strong in certain areas, weak in others... yet they can win in a regular $75/$150 game (or higher) because they usually get some fish to fry. Thus, a player who calls too much may be a winning player because he can read well and move people off hands,...http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18810Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18810Usenet6http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18810http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18810.xml"SteadyEd O" ... The easiest people to bluff are the ones that always ... will call your bluff! You really are nut case. Vince Ok this one even baffles me. Whats up with this Russ..Most of the timeif you are up against a calling ... share of bluffing... but not against calling stations...I figureyou have something to add to what you said.. lets hear it.. LOL. He finally said something I cannot argue with from a concept standpoint or valuable to the reader basis, but almost everyone else probably will debate him. From a pure understanding of what the word "always" means, of course Russ would be wrong. But, let's allow that he doesn't mean "always" especially if he references high stakes PL poker. As...http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18651Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18651Usenet7http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18651http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18651.xmlhe easiest people to bluff are the ones that always call,> Russ Georgiev Yes, the mark of a true artist. Bluff the guy that will call your bluff! You really are nut case. Vince Ok this one even baffles me. Whats up with this Russ..Most of the time if you are up against a calling station you really can't bluff them out. You just have to show them a hand. They usually aren't good enough to respect your bet... Usually its a good player who knows when to fold that can be bluffed.. I get bluffed at times however thats part of being a winning player...I also do my fair share of bluffing... but not against calling stations...I figure you have something to add to what you said.. lets hear it..http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18614Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18614Usenet8http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18614http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18614.xmli am new to message boards about poker. however there seem to be a large amount of people (aka. random clowns) who doubt russ's theory posts. i am not a world class player, nor do i know russ other than through posts i have dug up on google, yet i understand that his posts make sense. there are a lot of people who seem to play 10-20 to 20-40 all their lives and think they know what poker's about. who is the clown who said being a solid pro is about courage, and that 80% of players know how to play? i am not saying i know what poker's about, because i don't, but i realize that russ is a lot closer to the truth than people talking about EV and the value of AQ in early position. as far as cheating goes, i believe russ that...http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18579Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18579Usenet9http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18579http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18579.xmlI thought the post was a nice read, welcome back ... position - and how does your strategy change. Thanks Paul It's like I have stated, bluffing is an art.. the easiest people to bluff are the ones that always call,> Russ Georgiev Yes, the mark of a true artist. Bluff the guy that will call your bluff! You really are nut case. Vincehttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18459Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18459Usenet10http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18459http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18459.xmlI thought the post was a nice read, welcome back russ. I have a question. How often do you bluff ... much more difficult do you find it to bluff without position - and how does your strategy change. Thanks Paul It's like I have stated, bluffing is an art. It is actually easier to bluff out of position since most people haven't the nerve or ability to do this. Bluffing depends on the game and the opponent. Some times the easiest people to bluff are the ones that always call, almost always. Russ Georgievhttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18411Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:18411Usenet11http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#18411http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-18411.xmlThis post was not about bluffing theory. I defy anyone even Russ the genius himself to define the bluffing theory described in this post. This guy, if he knows anything at all about bluffing, certainly didn't tell us anything here. In fact his last statement is not about bluffing it's about the opposite of bluffing. It's about letting your opponent bet and calling with Aces when your the other guy has Kings. Wow! What a concept! Someone should tell this guy that there is already a book called Poker Farce. The poker world doesn't need another one. Vincehttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#17577Mon, 11 May 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:17577Usenet12http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htm#17577http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-17577.xmlI thought the post was a nice read, welcome back russ. I have a question. How often do you bluff with position vs out of position. How much more difficult do you find it to bluff without position - and how does your strategy change. Thanks Paulhttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htmTue, 11 Aug 2009 23:30:57 GMTe9fc6c38-44c2-448e-ad72-ab9133b77580:16670Usenet13http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/GcaBluffingAndBetting/dglk/post.htmhttp://igamingforums.com/iGaming/comments103-16670.xmlBluffing and Betting Bluffing is an art, especially in high stakes games. You just don't decide you're going to bluff a hand on the river or the turn. Bluffs like this can be read by the better players. The higher you go into poker hierarchy the harder it is to bluff, or is it? Bluffing is a skill most players never achieve, though many spend a lifetime attempting to learn. Bluffing is something you plan on at the beginning of a hand, so you adjust your play from the go. Bluffing on the final card or the turn and final card just isn't the way to go. Good players will realize something is wrong with the style of betting and most will take advantage of this. Proper bluffing requires an attitude you apply as you start the hand....